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Offline EagleEyesFlash

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Selecting an awesome Muskie Bucktail outfit for yakfishing
« on: January 26, 2015, 11:27:30 AM »
I've decided to splurge and spend the most I ever have on a rod and reel combo.
The main purpose of the outfit will be to cast bucktails ( 1-3 oz.) for muskie
from a Hobie PA 12. The combo must be strong and durable enough
to handle double 10's and bulldawgs once in a while too.
Thought I'ld share the selection process and looking for
feedback from you guys and girls, before the purchase.

First the reel:
 A shimano Tranx is meant to be the Cadillac of heavy duty reels these
days and is what Jim Saric the "Musky Hunter" now uses but at $500.00 is expensive.
There's been a new generation of low profile baitcasters able to handle musky baits that have
come to market recently and I have it down to 3 or 4. These are way more comfortable
and easier to use than the more conventional round ones.

 Quantum EXO 300PT.. more specifically EX300SPT BX2 with a 6.6:1 gear ratio. about $300.00
 

Abu Garcia Revo Toro NACL 60-HS... 6.4 :1  about $300.00


Daiwa Lexa 400H  6.3:1  about $230.00

Having trouble finding the Quantum around here, and starting to lean towards the Daiwa.
Also starting to think a Lexa 300H might be suffice.
LeBaron's has a wicked price on the Lexas
http://www.lebaron.ca/pdf_files_sp13/daiwa_baitcast_reels.pdf

to be continued.  :)





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Re: Selecting an awesome Muskie Bucktail outfit for yakfishing
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2015, 11:36:28 AM »
I purchase this reel last year for around $200 and used it for pitching Muskie Baits up to 9oz. 

http://www.okumafishing.com/product/view/reels/baitcast-reels-low-profile/komodo-350

It has some pretty good reviews.

I just checked on Amazon.com and the left hand 350 sells for $132.94 free shipping. (US)  and the right hand for $197.64 (US)
« Last Edit: January 26, 2015, 11:44:50 AM by PikeCreek »

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Re: Selecting an awesome Muskie Bucktail outfit for yakfishing
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2015, 12:04:16 PM »
Also look at the shimano calcutta series, I have three that I've used for years and they've never failed.

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Re: Selecting an awesome Muskie Bucktail outfit for yakfishing
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2015, 12:59:30 PM »
Okuma 's getting more popular around the world each year.
The Daiwas are made in Korea too, sometimes some assembly issues
just like Shimano these days.
Yes Calcutta Tes, Bs and Ds have been a reliable workhorse for years, but
heavy compared to these low profile ones.
Curado 300E is more of a casting reel and was originally
what I was thinking of getting, but have been
seduced by these ones. Have a Takota for trolling.

How about gear ratio ? 5/6 or the new hyper 7:1 s?
Got to figure the hyper ones put more stress on the internals and could
have you working a bait too fast. I have worked bucktails with an Abu
C3-6500...5.3:1  just fine, and from what I've read figure 6:1  is good.

Upgrading to Boca ceramic bearings is common, after some wear.
Also get the "Power" handle or not ? Think the power handle is good
for reeling in fish but gets in the way for casting, so wont worry
about getting the power handle.

Here's a Lexa review:   http://www.muskyhunter.com/forum/showthread.php?7481-Tested-my-Daiwa-Lexa-300-and-400-reels-today

http://www.muskyhunter.com/forum/showthread.php?7553-Daiwa-Lexa-400-Issue
« Last Edit: January 27, 2015, 02:54:15 PM by EagleEyesFlash »
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Re: Selecting an awesome Muskie Bucktail outfit for yakfishing
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2015, 04:20:47 PM »
Rods ?
Okuma EVX Musky Rods, about $135.00.. read are tip heavy.
Diawa..DXM Musky $82.00 ??

New Shimano Compre Muskie line... about $180.00

ST Croix rods are usually considered the best.
MOJO / Premier / and Legend Series... can spend over $400.00 on one of these.

But then came along Tackle Industries exceptional rods, these have great reviews and are very
similar to St. Croix Legend series at less than 1/2 the price.

http://www.tackleindustries.com/muskypikerods.html

There's a Canadian supplier in London On.

http://5aught.ca/catalogue.php?Musky%20Rods&category=78

Now which one would be good out of a kayak ? There's been
a big trend towards using rods 8'6" and longer these days, for
ease in casting and doing figure 8's. Can you use an 8' 6" rod sitting in a kayak too ?


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Re: Selecting an awesome Muskie Bucktail outfit for yakfishing
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2015, 07:24:22 PM »
I have the Okuma Komodo 350 reel. $170 on Amazon and
The Okuma Musky 8'6" one piece telescoping rod. $130 on Amazon. I bought the XH rod, but after using it for a bit, I would probably go with just the Heavy.

This is a great combination for casting heavier baits.



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Re: Selecting an awesome Muskie Bucktail outfit for yakfishing
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2015, 12:02:07 PM »
Here's a good In-Fisherman article on Musky Bucktails.

http://www.in-fisherman.com/pike-muskie/muskie/power-fishing-muskie-bucktails/
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Re: Selecting an awesome Muskie Bucktail outfit for yakfishing
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2015, 10:47:49 AM »
Mmmmmm Bucktails  :)

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Re: Selecting an awesome Muskie Bucktail outfit for yakfishing
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2015, 11:00:40 AM »
Mmmm more bucktails.  :)

Buchertail 800 Magnum and Musky Mania Trouble & Double Trouble.

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Re: Selecting an awesome Muskie Bucktail outfit for yakfishing
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2015, 11:18:09 AM »
and more bucktails, 
here's a couple from Dadson Blade Baits

'Vortex"  & "Laser"  :)

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Re: Selecting an awesome Muskie Bucktail outfit for yakfishing
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2015, 01:40:45 PM »
A local guy, Mike Parker makes these. He makes nice bump boards as well. I'm taking to him about making unhinged muskie boards for kayaks as well as a 40" board for pike and larger walleye....I find the 30" Hawg trough can be too small sometimes.


http://www.handlebarzmuskylures.com/Lures/Pages/Double_10s.html



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Re: Selecting an awesome Muskie Bucktail outfit for yakfishing
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2015, 08:34:18 PM »
Yeah Mighty Mouse have read good things about them Handlebarzs.

Bucktails are used mainly in shallower weedy stuff.
I actually prefer bucktail spinner baits in my power boat high speed trolling days.
A local duo " River Rat " lures made great stuff before the 'Musky Hunter " craze.
I much prefer big single hooks on a spinnerbait for hooking effectiveness and less
cartilage damage to fish. Also it's easier to add grubs to a single hook vs. a treble.
Another trick is to add a round piece of reflective tape onto a blade to make an "eye".

Here's a massed produced bucktail spinnerbait, a Lindy M/G

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Re: Selecting an awesome Muskie Bucktail outfit for yakfishing
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2015, 08:45:57 PM »
Anyhow, did the shopping.
Picked up a Daiwa Lexa 300H and a DXM761HFB rod at LeBarons.

http://www.lebaron.ca/pdf_files_sp13/daiwa_dxt_rods.pdf

I can always upgrade to a longer rod, figure 7.5 ft is plenty long enough
from a yak, especially if in any skinny water stuff.

It was a pleasure doing an over the counter sale with a knowledgeable staff
and got the 10% off card too for future purchases.

Guess I have no excuses now to land a not good to eat bragging ski now.
( Lost a grand Ottawa ski this past year on a stupid 10lb drag Caenan reel .  ;) )
« Last Edit: February 01, 2015, 12:39:15 PM by EagleEyesFlash »
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Re: Selecting an awesome Muskie Bucktail outfit for yakfishing
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2015, 04:36:58 AM »
Looks like a great setup.



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Re: Selecting an awesome Muskie Bucktail outfit for yakfishing
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2015, 09:40:23 AM »
That does sound like a solid setup. I just purchased a Mojo Bass good for 1-4 oz lures. The reel is next. I like the looks of the Okuma Komodo 350 but have yet to be able to find one locally. Our dropping dollar has me questioning buying at Amazon. Plus, really frustrating that the same reel in left hand is something like $50 dollars cheaper on Amazon! I need a right hand retrieve.


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